tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post5527210834280639762..comments2023-10-11T03:48:57.606-04:00Comments on Head For the Red: How to Calculate Planetary HoursRufus Opushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10806987441760167537noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-16190286222886517492010-04-15T12:30:42.284-04:002010-04-15T12:30:42.284-04:00Thank you very much! Comparing ritual timing to na...Thank you very much! Comparing ritual timing to natal charts really helped me get it. I appreciate it, :-).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10275216036612164378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-44312346254378902452010-04-13T09:53:37.220-04:002010-04-13T09:53:37.220-04:00"Why does the Chaldean order of planets line ..."Why does the Chaldean order of planets line up with a 24 hour cycle to perfectly leave the first hour of the day the ruling planet of that day? I'm sure it's on purpose, but I don't know why."<br /><br />Take at look at http://www.renaissanceastrology.com/planetaryhoursarticle.html<br /><br />First, the Chaldean Order of the planets is entirely natural since it follows their speeds from slowest to fastest, ie Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon as observed from earth. <br /><br />Take the 7 planets and arrange them in a seven pointed star in the Chaldean Order. You can see this diagram on my webpage referenced above. <br /><br />If you start with the Sun hour at Dawn on Sunday and go through the Chaldean Order the 24th hour of Sunday is Mercury hour, thus the next hour, the 1st hour of Monday is Moon hour. The 24th hour of Monday is Jupiter hour, so the 1st hour of Tuesday, again following the Chaldean Order is Mars hour. <br /><br />You can see the more elaborate day and hour diagram I "manifested" also on my webpage. <br /><br />The combination of the 7 planets and the 24 hours, plus the natural Chaldean Order produces the sequence of the planetary hours as well as the order of the days of the week. Very orderly, very logical and totally astrological.Christopher Warnock, Esqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094986897516229481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-89212771003425569392010-04-11T13:29:44.345-04:002010-04-11T13:29:44.345-04:00Jason, I like the Abramelin theories too, but I...Jason, I like the Abramelin theories too, but I've seen more power in the traditional astrological timing based on the spiritual math. Common sense tells you that a planet's power is going to be like the heat and light of the Sun, warmest and brightest when it's right over head than when it's on the other side of the planet relative to you, but these are spiritual forces, not physically radiant powers we're tapping into. <br /><br />The physical planet Mars isn't like a battery that radiates martial power into the universe. No scientific equipment will measure martial radiation that makes people more Martial spiritually the way Kammael does. The planet is a material manifestation that lets us chart the influence of martial power relative to the other astrological powers, but it's not the source of the Martial Current. It's a manifestation of the Martial current.<br /><br />Planetary hours and days aren't based on the location of the planets at all. It's pure math based on Chaldean principles that are lost to us now, or at least, I haven't seen them. Why is Monday Monday and not Tuesday? Why does the Chaldean order of planets line up with a 24 hour cycle to perfectly leave the first hour of the day the ruling planet of that day? I'm sure it's on purpose, but I don't know why.Rufus Opushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10806987441760167537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-51219545797492878402010-04-11T11:14:12.606-04:002010-04-11T11:14:12.606-04:00Something that is not in our traditional sources, ...Something that is not in our traditional sources, but that I have observed and makes sense, is that in addition to the planetary day and hour, the Zodiacal state of the planet, most importantly the essential dignity or debility of the planet matters a great deal.<br /><br />If a planet is dignified, particularly by sign or exaltation, then the planetary hour will be even more powerful. If a planet is in detriment or fall, then you can get negative effects. I once made a Jupiter talisman, Jupiter day and hour, but Jupiter in detriment and retrograde and I lost money! <br /><br />Christopher WarnockChristopher Warnock, Esqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094986897516229481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-47205018090485169442010-04-10T19:23:31.235-04:002010-04-10T19:23:31.235-04:00So here is a question:
If astronomically speaking...So here is a question:<br /><br />If astronomically speaking the planet you want to work with is closer than normal, right over head or even better right in sight of you at your altar with a clear view, but astrologically speaking it is not the right day and hour would you ignore the astronomical position in favor of the days and hours?<br /><br />I like Abramelins system better myself but I am curious as to your answer.Jason Miller,https://www.blogger.com/profile/03034226672257024583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-25924431849938921372010-04-10T10:10:11.880-04:002010-04-10T10:10:11.880-04:00It's a very good question, the kind that a mag...It's a very good question, the kind that a magician actually doing (or really thinking through doing) the magic would ask. <br /><br />The selection of time periods for their auspicious qualities as bestowed by the stars is rooted in astrological election. Think about your natal chart; it's a reading on your whole life, but it is based on a snapshot of the moment you entered the world.<br /><br />Astrological elections only matter for the moment you begin the event you're planning. As long as you begin the ritual that includes the conjuration during the right planetary hour, you're good.Rufus Opushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10806987441760167537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-58623617712379687422010-04-10T02:19:37.641-04:002010-04-10T02:19:37.641-04:00Forgive this question as it may come off as a bit ...Forgive this question as it may come off as a bit retarded but I've always been kind of curious.<br /><br />Assuming that the planetary hour is short (as the nights are becoming) and your ritual setup takes a bit of time, you may miss the actual planetary hour when performing the evocation/conjuring if you begin the rite during the planetary hour.<br /><br />Assuming that's the case, would it be better to *begin* the rite during the planetary hour or to try and time it so that the actual conjuration *takes place* with the planetary hour?<br /><br />Again, sorry if that's a dumb question, I'm new to actually *doing* magick as opposed to just reading about it. Thanks :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10275216036612164378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-1253917363076461472010-04-09T16:26:33.567-04:002010-04-09T16:26:33.567-04:00Note that the ease of the power flowing down the &...Note that the ease of the power flowing down the "Tree" is a reflection only of the Tree's layout. Flip Venus and Mercury, and you've got a different story altogether, a different interpretation. There is no Tree in my approach, only a series of concentric overlapping spheres. <br /><br />Each planetary sphere has its roots in the spheres above and below it relative to the position of the Magician. There are essences of Jupiter in Venus, and Mars in the Sun. Everything that exists in Venus is a potential within Jupiter. They all work together in harmony.<br /><br />Sometimes the harmony they work together in isn't something we want to hear at the moment.Rufus Opushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10806987441760167537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-50815113646788570622010-04-09T16:02:55.266-04:002010-04-09T16:02:55.266-04:00Interesting that Agrippa said the planetary hour w...Interesting that Agrippa said the planetary hour was stronger. Lisiewski also said that the power goes from the planetary hour to the planetary day. So, if it were Jupiter hour on a Venus day, the power easily flows down the "Tree" but if a Venus hour on a Jupiter day you get alot of resistance because the power does not so easily flow up the tree. I have often wondered how effective talismans and such might be if you use different planetary days and hours, such as Jupiter flowing to Venus which corresponds to the Wheel of Fortune of the tarot.Phil Smithnoreply@blogger.com