tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post7893806383847993179..comments2023-10-11T03:48:57.606-04:00Comments on Head For the Red: On Goety: In retrospect, things could have been better plannedRufus Opushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10806987441760167537noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-901157990683095402010-01-18T11:54:53.554-05:002010-01-18T11:54:53.554-05:00Just wondering:
Considering some of the things yo...Just wondering:<br /><br />Considering some of the things you've said to me in back-channel correspondence, and the things you say in the books you've published to date, are your books in for a major rewrite, or are you just going to tack on a post-fire preface?Theo Huffmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11832438171790956528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-40702019617227255162010-01-16T23:19:43.252-05:002010-01-16T23:19:43.252-05:00I would like it better if it was more event focuse...<i>I would like it better if it was more event focused rather than trying to tweak in me too much I like my personal space man. :)</i><br /><br />I don't mind that goetics like to tweak me. I know my thinking was pretty messed up in that it was a big part of the reasons I had to summon them in the first place. <br /><br />What I am amazed is how they seem to also effect other people and outside events. I had doubts about them effecting me, let alone anyone else.Jastivhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16933261474449916393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-5895836239963590622010-01-14T19:35:17.943-05:002010-01-14T19:35:17.943-05:00Heyya RO I actually was satisfied with my ordering...Heyya RO I actually was satisfied with my ordering except I did notice Bune taking energetic liberties... Firstly I am very energetically sensitive.<br /><br />But when I did get it to direct its energies in a way that I liked it too it came through and really brought some of the things I needed to do home to me as well as provided me opportunities. I would like it better if it was more event focused rather than trying to tweak in me too much I like my personal space man. :)<br /><br />You might want to consider charging for evocations, on a person to person type of basis so you can give it the attention it deserves and also tweak the price etc. <br /><br />I would pay because I definitively know that you contacted the spirit etc. <br /><br />Frater EST<br />C IAOAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-88201730577997301382010-01-14T11:45:17.928-05:002010-01-14T11:45:17.928-05:00Thanks, everyone, for the comments. Especially all...Thanks, everyone, for the comments. Especially all the compliments about how cool I am, it shows you have fine taste in magicians. ;)<br /><br />IRH, yeah, one of the main things I try to get across to people is the reality of all the spirits. I loathe the psychological model. It sucks all the power and fun out of magic, imo.Rufus Opushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10806987441760167537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-28904112996169865992010-01-14T09:32:10.573-05:002010-01-14T09:32:10.573-05:00It takes a big person to admit when they screwed u...It takes a big person to admit when they screwed up. It shows wisdom. Honestly, most people, including myself would have blamed Bune whole cloth and not had a second thought, or tossed it up to mundane coincidence.<br /><br />So long as you dont beat yourself with the blame stick too hard. Recognizing where you may have erred, making amends, changing your life, and doing your best so that doesn't happen again are the important parts. Self blame and self flagellation can become a personal hobby if you dont watch it.<br /><br />In Arabian sorcery the spirits of the Goetia are considered underworld Djinn, the kind everybody and their mom thinks they want as pets and servants. Hubris is the name of the game there, and it usually doesnt end well. But many of the sorcerers not only are not planning, they have an attitude that these beings SHOULD be their slaves, in fact it is their role in creation to be so, thus treat them very sub humanly. <br /><br />You never did crap like that. Which also says a lot of your charecter.<br /><br />Trust me, we all do stupid shit when we let our ability outstrip our common sense. If we ever hang out in person, remind me to tell you the story of when I decided it would be a good idea to summon the angel of death on samhain. It's a hoot! Well, it's a hoot now that it's a a nearly decade old memory ;)<br /><br />The point is, you are wiser now. And you know not to do things quite that way again. I dont think that the Goetic spirits are evil, I just think they are really close to the material, which endows them, with a different temperment than angels. <br /><br />The Upperworld tends to work through revelation.<br /><br />The Middle world tends to work through coincedence and hard work.<br /><br />The Lower world tends to work through trial. Any beings of the Divine Cthonic as Jason puts it can harrow a body like there is no tomorrow. I remember comming across a mantra to Kali Ma that was said to bring spiritual enlightenment by the fastest possible means. It came with a disclaimer: Be sure you really really want this.<br /><br />Because they dont make it pleasant. <br /><br />Please remember to work with them when you do decide to again, with compassion, and work with yourself with compassion. If this didn't happen to you, if it happened to a student of yours, what would you say to them? What would you do for them or help them to do for themself? I think that might be a good place to start..Mr. J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08992497721332168579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-47016758605248801302010-01-14T08:55:50.447-05:002010-01-14T08:55:50.447-05:00Hi Frater RO.
I've read the account of your p...Hi Frater RO.<br /><br />I've read the account of your predicament and how you now feel about yourself. When it comes to working with Goetics please bare in mind that they are quite real. There is a belief in 'pop occulture' that they are just a subconscious aspect of the summoner. This idea is partially true and partially a lie-lol. Their egregore can certainly provoke many subconscious aspects to appear and manifest.You seem to have passed the test presented! So do not berate yourself. The Goetics have a certain egegore. This in itself will challenge the summoner and holds the key to successful contact and work.<br />Just my thoughts....not sure why I felt compelled to write them...hope they might help! <br /><br />Peace brother and I hope that things get better for you and your family.<br /><br />LVX<br /><br />IRHLorenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09271429221752349675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-64005914772265858342010-01-13T22:53:21.033-05:002010-01-13T22:53:21.033-05:00Seconded!Seconded!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00688466441427496085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-26607625661464985472010-01-13T21:33:14.407-05:002010-01-13T21:33:14.407-05:00One more thing: dont be so hard on yourself. This ...One more thing: dont be so hard on yourself. This kind of shit happens. <br /><br />Didnt plan goetia well: happens to just about everybody that has ever used it seriously, at least once. Not often in such catastrophic ways, but it happens. <br /><br />Didnt listen to your wife when she told you to clean the furnace room? You are a man. Every husband in the world has not listened to their wife when in retrospect they should have. Its just hard to tell the real important stuff amidst all the "blah blah blah..." :-)<br /><br />Did'nt get the regular maintenance? You and 99% of everyone else. <br /><br />Basically, it was a disaster, you are ok and your kids are ok and you have insurance. If there was not some kind of needed realization from this, your angel would have warned you.Jason Miller,https://www.blogger.com/profile/03034226672257024583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-65008377843766556252010-01-13T20:29:43.746-05:002010-01-13T20:29:43.746-05:00That post was made by a magician! In the future, y...That post was made by a magician! In the future, you'll by proud of that post, not embarrassed. <br /><br />We've all messed up with magick at some point. Those that do the great work learn, eventually. Those that are just doing magick, return to their own vomit time and time again, never learning, never growing.<br /><br />Be well my friend.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10144040453666802786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-54415280945784208542010-01-13T18:03:49.235-05:002010-01-13T18:03:49.235-05:00This was a phenominal post my friend. Very insight...This was a phenominal post my friend. Very insightful, and true. Goety is good for short term contracts with very precise terms.Jason Miller,https://www.blogger.com/profile/03034226672257024583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-85809555185452030892010-01-13T17:59:37.269-05:002010-01-13T17:59:37.269-05:00If we are approaching magic scientifically, as mos...If we are approaching magic scientifically, as most of us try to, your record is a priceless piece of data. To echo the previous commenter, much respect! <br /><br />And best wishes.A.M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11061960122081825023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-76091036423181503252010-01-13T17:53:40.799-05:002010-01-13T17:53:40.799-05:00Halfway through this post I was set to tell you to...Halfway through this post I was set to tell you to ease up on yourself, that no-one's perfect and we all do the things that lead to the fire (like not religiously maintaining the furnance) but it became clear you're using the experience as a catalyst to create psitive spiritual change and therefore it's really not my place to pass judgement, I guess all I can say is failure or no, you get Kuds from me on how you're handling it.<br /><br />Oh and on the removal of the Bune request, fair-dos really, but I guess I'll have to change my icon to something that's not Bune's seal.Finhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12196557967881355807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-43815047648970772882010-01-13T17:39:54.326-05:002010-01-13T17:39:54.326-05:00I know its easy to blame the "evil Demon"...I know its easy to blame the "evil Demon" but did you ever think that maybe that angel of Jupiter had something to do with it too. I mean, angels, you can't actually control them or tell them what to do, you know. The angel of Jupiter probably thought, hey, solve this little "problem" once and for all, so hey, it doesn't matter what you told Bune, because you had the big angel involved.Jastivhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16933261474449916393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-37492198553203247042010-01-13T16:53:10.713-05:002010-01-13T16:53:10.713-05:00I have to say that I believe it takes one hell of ...I have to say that I believe it takes one hell of a man to be willing to not only admit that you made a mistake, but to take the steps to ensure that those mistakes won't happen in the future. I think that your open and honest explanation of your experiences will help anyone who comes across it not fall into those same traps that you've encountered. Thank you for being open and honest about things, even when it isn't all "sunshine and rainbows."Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07725244960598418247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-78133127786624317662010-01-13T16:21:59.273-05:002010-01-13T16:21:59.273-05:00I'm publicly owning up to mistakes I made beca...<i>I'm publicly owning up to mistakes I made because this blog is primarily about the Great Work</i><br /><br />And this is why I like reading your blog.<br /><br />A real man can say he made a mistake, and correct it. Good on you!<br /><br />"Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet <b>your heavenly Father</b> feeds them."Monsignor Scott Rassbachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11685549734111626335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25882546.post-6686814879612915082010-01-13T13:34:24.301-05:002010-01-13T13:34:24.301-05:00I applaud your ability to learn from your life'...I applaud your ability to learn from your life's experiences...and to post them to the community so that others may also learn from them. This is a quality not often seen in a magician. Much respect!Soror FSOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00115294073214207540noreply@blogger.com