It's funny, I get into the habit of doing magic only when I need something, or only when I want to learn something. I mean, I think we all do, right?
But what about just hanging out with the spirits? When I first started doing magic, I thought they were cool, and I liked the stuff I learned and received, but it was the thrill of being in the room with the spirits that drove me.
Over time, I guess I just got used to it. So I sort of did the rising through the spheres thing, and burned the occasional candle near Bune's sigil, or conjured some Goetic spirits to address certain parts of my life...
But they're there for more. You know? We're friends with the spirits. That's why they do what we want, in part. They love us. Love is important. Friends are important. Establishing relationships with the spirits is important.
Maybe it's because I don't have a big social life, but I never really realized that people like to hang out together. It may be shocking, but I really don't particularly like people much. They tend to do stupid things. I'm not saying I don't do stupid things, but that's just it. I don't want to hang out with people as prone to stupidity as I am, and on the whole, most folks I've met in life are pretty darned prone to being stupid.
But the spirits! They're cool just to hang out with. And you can't help but be raised to their level, or at least closer to it, just by hanging out with them. The Greeks had it right, they'd totally hang out with the spirits, share a beer or jug of wine with them, and just talk. They Worked with them too, of course, how can you not, but they enjoyed their time with the spirits.
So with that in ind, me and my handy dandy Box are spending more time hanging out with the spirits. I'm putting the seals I have in metal of the spirits I need to work with the most across the electrodes and letting the battery run down while the light projects through the sphere. I'm conjuring them and just hanging out, not doing anything but talking with them, enjoying their company, and hopefully giving them a chance to enjoy mine. Maybe it's like Jason's offering technique, I dunno, but it's been a lot of fun. There's no urgency, so there's more time to just hang out and discuss things. there are no distractions, because it's something I can do while I'm falling asleep. I suppose it's a lot like meditation or rising through the spheres, but it's more of an approach without any agenda. Old friends getting together.
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>>There's no urgency, so there's more time to just hang out and discuss things. there are no distractions, because it's something I can do while I'm falling asleep.
ReplyDeletePeople are easier to be influenced when their material form is asleep. We can attune ourselves to a spirit's easier when our material forms and conscious minds are asleep. It's easier when we fall asleep while we are being attuned to a spirit when we go to bed for the night. Since we carry it over into the most immediate 'sleep acts' when we fall asleep, the sorting the brain does of what's necessary and what isn't will focus on this at first and shoot out what won't fit with the attunement. The same is true for when the body repairs itself during sleep.
It is indeed like my offering technique.
ReplyDeleteYou should also however get out and hang with people more.
Jason: Agreed. I have a weird time trying to talk to people. I tend to see things from an eternal perspective as my default, and it leaves me separated from most people that can't see past the next two weeks. I know I'm not there all the time by any means, but it's my resting point.
ReplyDeleteAs a result, I don't feel comfortable with most people. I trivialize their problems, and they trivialize mine.
But I do appreciate friends more now.
Maybe it's that compassion crap.
It sounds like you fall back to just being numb when situations get tough to pull through it.
ReplyDeleteAnd that's what little you wrote came through as. Eternal and separated. 'Numb' to what they're doing because it doesn't enter into/effect you.
ReplyDeleteG: If you knew what I meant by "eternal perspective," you wouldn't have thought I was willfully disconnecting. I don't know what an eternal perspective has been in your experience, but in mine it's been a great deal of wholeness.
ReplyDeleteThis is why I don't like trying to talk to people. They don't have the same frame of reference, and it takes too long to explain things. People leap to conclusions (I do it all the time) without all the information that would lead them to the right understanding. People are blind and ready to misunderstand, eager to jump to the wrong interpretation out of whatever motivates them to do so.
I don't understand why based on what I said you would assume I meant I disconnect, or why it would be "when things are tough." I said my eternal perspective was my resting point, not a place to go to in times of trouble. It's where I go when I'm relaxed and NOT distracted by concerns of the moment. I think everyone should be schooled in eternity.
I'm talking about getting into conscious awareness of my relationship to the eternal consciousness I call God. Being aware of my Race and Value as an incarnated human being.
And I totally am not numb to the unenlightened. I'm painfully aware of them. It hurts to be trying to talk to you about something beyond your experience, it's annoying. I'm not escaping you by returning my awareness to the eternal, because you're totally right there too. I'm just able to see you from a perspective beyond your immediate limitations, and beyond my own. It's the interaction with you from within our points of view that I can't stand.
The whole reason I blog is to get people initiated to my level so I can have people to talk to, people with similar experiences who will be able to identify what I'm talking about because there will be a resonance in tehir own spheres. It annoys the fuck out of me that you're still a discordant influence on my sphere. We've been friends now for what, two years? At least acquaintences. You've traveled the spheres, you know where I've been, where I'm coming from, and yet you still misinterpret me. Why? Why why why?
And honestly, I just don't have the bandwidth to explain myself at the level of detail that it would take to accurately communicate my state of being spiritually. And if I were going to try to do that, I'd do it in a blog post, not just the comments section. In fact, I probably will. :D
>>I don't know what an eternal perspective has been in your experience, but in mine it's been a great deal of wholeness.
ReplyDeleteIt's simple, you wrote 'I tend to see things from an eternal perspective as my default, and it leaves me separated from most people that can't see past the next two weeks'.
Combining separate and eternal makes me think of being numb. Observing with a lack of interaction. You also said you're not comfortable with others and trivialize their problems. To not care, but to still interact on even a superficial level with others means you don't let them effect you. You are numb to them.
>>I don't understand why based on what I said you would assume I meant I disconnect, or why it would be "when things are tough." I said my eternal perspective was my resting point, not a place to go to in times of trouble.
My south node is pisces.
>>I'm just able to see you from a perspective beyond your immediate limitations, and beyond my own.
I was trying to be nonjudgemental in my understanding of what you wrote. However, the context suggested being numb, despite what I've seen you write before.
>>It annoys the fuck out of me that you're still a discordant influence on my sphere. We've been friends now for what, two years? At least acquaintences. You've traveled the spheres, you know where I've been, where I'm coming from, and yet you still misinterpret me. Why? Why why why?
Okay, first off, take a breather. You want to know something I learned about myself just a few hours ago? Despite the fact I'm really good at magick (and partly because my south node is pisces), one sense of 'being eternal' spiritually came down to the material so strongly that some injuries I get take longer to heal and are close to impossible for said injuries to heal as they should. That feeling (unknowingly) turned out to be a feeling of 'stone' instead of flesh that continuously regenerates, like soft and squishy organic bodies do.
It's not the first time I've removed the context of 'being stone' because I decided the way things were manifesting when I was working on my martial arts wasn't how I ultimately wanted it to be. The idea of stone has shown up in a different context, which was also much broader, but totally unintentionaly. This is the unable to completely heal some injuries, as they're supposed to and I never would have gotten here unless there was some other things that hadn't been pointed out to me.
You've shown to be systematic with your magick studies with a relationship with agrippa that is likened to an addict and his meth, but you've also recently spoken of revelations about yourself and your life. You've also said in this entry that you didn't treat magick as a social thing.
This is something that I've done for a long time and when you start doing something different with magick, it can show something else about you. Some thing you hadn't noticed or a new level of context that things have been done in.
All of that is the context that I wrote the numb comment in.
Boy, oh boy! This is as much fun as Yahoo Groups... :-/
ReplyDeleteI think I know what you mean about feeling separated from "people". I feel that way a lot myself - unfortunately, I think its very common for magicians. We just got to remember that the trees are just as important as the forest. Right now I just started a job as a food runner for a popular restaurant, and I am struggling with my people problems on top of already very challenging work. Somehow though, it feels like I am supposed to be doing this - like I'm tackling my karma head on. I think in many ways "stupid" is the modern equivalent of "bad" or even "evil". Its a word that certainly gets thrown around way too much. Very few of us are truly stupid. I think when we understand that all of us can go off the deep end when the right buttons are pushed, the compassion you talk about becomes much more doable.
ReplyDeleteBTW, if you're interested, I'm writing for the "Papers in the Attic" Necronomicon Blog now: http://warlockasylum.wordpress.com
i think you're right on with that attitude
ReplyDeleteand yes it's been lost on us westerners
it's all about relaxing and enjoying life, enjoying what is, the gathering of friends or friendly spirits